Taxi penalty bug

atleiker · Post by **atleiker** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:11 am

I got dinged with the excess taxi speed penalty while still on the runway and within 10 seconds of touchdown. This was on my latest flight KOMA to KSTJ.

FYI,

Ted

Stan · Post by **Stan** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:44 pm

same thing happened to me.

CAPFlyer · Post by **CAPFlyer** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:50 pm

Well, that's 2 of over a hundred active pilots that have had the issue. We can't identify the problem (if there is one) based on the information given. What we need at minimum is the "LOG.out" file to be copied and pasted here, and we need to know what airport you were landing at.

Usually, when something like this occurs, it's a scenery issue on your end and not the FlyNET software itself.

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:14 pm

Naw it has happened to me and at least one of my pilots as well. The only thing that we can figure is that we slow down or stop on the runway and then speed up to the taxiway while on the runway. The solution was not to stop on the runway or slow down below 25 knots until your sure your going to exit the runway.

CAPFlyer · Post by **CAPFlyer** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:04 pm

That wouldn't be a bug then. Once you drop below 25 knots or 60 seconds after landing, the system activates the taxi penalty check routine, and if you go faster than 25 knots after that, it dings you. So in your case, it's working perfectly, it's the pilot who's not.

atleiker · Post by **atleiker** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:17 pm

Wolf's experience is different from mine. I definitely had not slowed and sped up and was just rolling out after touchdown. I'll try and send that file and other info if it happens again.

ivanT3 · Post by **ivanT3** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:32 am

My first offense of any kind happened today right after landing, toward the end of the runway, way under 60 seconds. So, there is a problem. Reverser's on, lift dumpers out, then after thats all cleaned up, wheel brakes.

I don't think it takes 60 seconds to make it to the end of rwy 25 at EGAA in a trident 3{ this runway is 9100' long and I followed the ILS down so I didn't use the whole thing..

There goes my perfect record. I did not taxi over 25 kts. This happened well before 60 seconds.

Thanks

Ivan..................................

Post by **cmdrnmartin** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:00 pm

When you say 'right' after landing, I think immediately, like 5 seconds.

The client, to the best of my knowledge, does not care about your speed for 60 seconds after final touchdown. This gives plenty of time to slow and get under the 25 knot rule. If it happens consistently with a certain model type, then you may want to check your model for contact points, specifically water rudder settings (they may control bay doors) and make sure the client isnt recording a touchdown while you are still in the air.

As to the perfect record, Welcome to the club. A perfect record means nothing.

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:07 pm

Safe landing with a VLS of less than 900 fpm is great to me. Like everyone says if you can walk away from it then it is a good landing / flight.

Post by **cmdrnmartin** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:50 pm

900 FPM?

I consider it a bad landing at anything over 200FPM

MVS0204 · Post by **MVS0204** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:33 pm

cmdrnmartin wrote:I consider it a bad landing at anything over 200FPM

All landings would be at 0 ft/min, to be honest. That's the key when rotating.

My flight instructor told me once: "Best landing is when just before touchdown the aircraft is stalling".

Regards

ivanT3 · Post by **ivanT3** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:49 pm

I like to shoot for between 50 and 150 fpm {150, is hitting pretty hard}. I don't like to be to close to stall in a big jet though. I like a little air speed. You can be VAT+ 10 and still touch very light. For me, a little speed "pad" set's me up good for a go-around if I need one. That close to the ground,after/during the flare and gas to idle, you're going to touch before you get spooled all the way up and a climb established. It's really a touch and go, I guess.

As for a perfect record meaning nothing?well, that would depend entirely upon who you ask. I was trying to make 100 flights without being binged. Why is this meaningless??

Ivan....................

Wolfar100 · Post by **Wolfar100** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:43 pm

cmdrnmartin wrote:900 FPM?

I consider it a bad landing at anything over 200FPM

You all missed the point of the jest!

ivanT3 · Post by **ivanT3** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:40 pm

Wolfar100 wrote:
cmdrnmartin wrote:900 FPM?

I consider it a bad landing at anything over 200FPM
You all missed the point of the jest!

Sorry

, I thought you were really landing at 900. That will break an airplane in many cases, as you know

Ivan.............................