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Winshear and Turbulence.
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:48 pm
by ssanchez
How am I supposed to deal with windshear or turbulence?
Whenever I fly real weather I'm unable to do a perfect flight because the turbulence will send me above 250 below 10,000
I believe the client should wait longer to ding you on overspeed.
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:40 pm
by avalonceo
Use the 1000 feet beetween 11,000 and 10,000 as a buffer zone to get your speed down to around 240, you shouldn't have any problem then. Hope that helps.
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:24 pm
by Tekin
No, That works on PMDG/PSS aircraft, but not on default aircraft such as POSKY CRJ-900
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:20 pm
by SnakeBite
Keep resetting your barometer below 18,000 ft..
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:50 pm
by avalonceo
Tekin wrote:No, That works on PMDG/PSS aircraft, but not on default aircraft such as POSKY CRJ-900
That will work on ANY aircraft, you just need to fly it by hand
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:06 pm
by ssanchez
Let me make myself a bit more clear...
I'm TRYING to hold the plane at 230 in downwind with a 25 mile an hour wind, gusting 35. When I get a gust, the speed races to 251 and I get dinged. If the client would wait for at least 10 seconds, I would be able to get the nose up a bit or the gust would vanish and the plane would decelerate by itself.
And I'm using PMDG's 737s
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:28 pm
by tall_guy_pete
Recommendation: With defautl aircraft use the speedbrake and disable your AT, then set your throttles to idel
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:14 am
by IslandBum
Dumb question
Are you using IAS or TAS?
Leif
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:13 pm
by ssanchez
IAS
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:15 am
by vknierim
ssanchez wrote:Let me make myself a bit more clear...
I'm TRYING to hold the plane at 230 in downwind with a 25 mile an hour wind, gusting 35. When I get a gust, the speed races to 251 and I get dinged. If the client would wait for at least 10 seconds, I would be able to get the nose up a bit or the gust would vanish and the plane would decelerate by itself.
Hi,
I'm not sure about this, but I do not think the client is this strict. I think it only penalizes you, if your speed is >255-260 kts...
Until something is changed in the client, I suppose you will have to fly even slower to avoid this penality in turbulent weather.
Volker
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:11 pm
by ssanchez
Thanks Volker,
The point is that if I get pushed on downwind
by a gusting wind, I should not be penalized.
I'm already decelerating and is extremely frustrating to get dinged because the plane gets shaken by wind. My point is "NOT MY FAULT" (or maybe it is, for using real world weather)
If you are in the US, you might remember last weekend's storms. Tornadoes and winds up to 70mph. That will surely toss your plane around. As I said. I was doing 230, going downwind on a PMDG737 (which is NOT a default plane, just FYI to other postings).
And even if you get pushed to 260, I still believe we should get some oportunity to react.
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:21 pm
by vknierim
ssanchez wrote:
And even if you get pushed to 260, I still believe we should get some oportunity to react.
I ssanchez,
I fully understand your point and support it strongly. It would be a real benefit to have this feature.
Greetings
Volker
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:36 pm
by tall_guy_pete
It is the pilots (captains) job to realise this in the first place. I have to disagree. I think it should stay like it is. You have to know these things and composate for them
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:36 pm
by vknierim
tall_guy_pete wrote:It is the pilots (captains) job to realise this in the first place. I have to disagree. I think it should stay like it is. You have to know these things and composate for them
tall_guy_pete,
in principle you are right, but given the limitations of the MSFS weather system (ESPECIALLY the wind simulation!) and the fact that in reality a controller would not generally penalize you for short time overspeeding due to gusts I assume, the client should be a bit less stringent in my opinion. It's not about removing the 250kts limit altogether, only to allow for short (5 - 10 secs) overspeeding.
Greetings
Volker
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:11 pm
by tall_guy_pete
Ah, im sorry for the mis-understanding. I can see the point of this. What worries me is that I'm on a single CPU (only 2.8GHz - northwood, thats a 512k cache for those who don't know) so im troubled about the resources that may have to be used continuously by the client.