FSAirlines

Two problems I discovered with the new client 6.6

Problem 1)
- Start up the client,
- select fly book flight,
- enter the amount of fuel you want and start the flight,
- kill and restart the client
- the client remembers the amount of fuel we entered we previously and when the flight ends we are not charged for it.

Problem 2)
- Complete your first flight and start another without restarting the client, just select fly booked flight and complete the next flight, the next flight is not recorded.

Would it be possible to go back to 6.4 until the problems with 6.6 are debugged?

nope it is NOT possible. I'm working on the fixes, if you think those problems are too bad you'll have to wait

cheers
DaKurt

Hi,

Further to this, if you refuel once and have to kill the client for any reason, you are unable to use the standard fuel option again. As Joe says, the refuels ARE written to the database except if you use the compare method. Also, if a flight that was booked and refuelled is not flown/cancelled, the next pilot who tries to fly the aircraft cannot refuel using 'standard' refuel option.

Can we also make our minds up as to what 'ADD' means. All clients before 6.5, you entered the total fuel 'required'. Client 6.5 changed so that you only enter a figure if you wished to ADD fuel to what was already in the tanks. With the latest client 6.6, despite what the client pages say ('ADD'), you need to enter the fuel 'REQUIRED'.

Rgds

John

ok, so I already fixed this problem that you can get free fuel by aborting a flight and so on. I'll do some other changes and then release the new version. Refueling should be quite STABLE now

hmm, Adding means, how much fuel do you want to add to the xxx kg that are already in the plane...there is a short text "fuel already loaded" under the edit box. there you can see how much you already got. then you type how much you want additionally.

cheers
DaKurt

Good point John. I had this confusion {not on my end} when 6.5 was "adding" fuel. I was not aware of this changing back to "enter the total amount needed for flight" in 6.6 standard mode. So ad should be taken literally indeed.

It will make a mess of the economics's if we don't know what amount of fuel was paid for and what amount was not. As it stands now, compare can be abused..

For the sake of clarity. I have only had this problem. The new client has not effected my Aircraft in any other way. Just buggy and confusing fuel options.

I'm sue it will be worked out in a short time. I realize these guys are working jobs full time as well.

However. I did have a thought this evening while doing Touch & Goes' in a VC-10. When they work on the client and they believe they have it right, who is testing it? How many are testing? I thought that if it could be helpful, I could, or others could quietly take the new client and "Log on" to a Flynet server, other than this one. a small one that has one Airline called "Test Air" and we could run the program into the ground and try to break it . Then. we could report any problems without anyone but a very few folks having to deal with it. Then, they could release nearly perfect programs for the rest of the community.

I don't know how hard this would be to set up but it was just a thought and I would be willing to help, if needed.

My 2 cents, less TAX..

Ivan........................................

ivanT3 wrote:When they work on the client and they believe they have it right, who is testing it? How many are testing?

HAHAHA, that's a nice question. You can see on the main page how many people are currently testing (Registered Users: 1291). This is a BETA client. That means that it is not an official release but only a testing phase. Well...in fact there isn't a big difference, but BETA means, that you might face some bugs and should/can report them
So in the end this is ONE BIG test phase.

BUT you have a good point...I thought of introducing "optional" and "normal" updates. Updates which only add some special features will only be optional (as long as the new version is not tested). Other updates which change economic things like f.e. ratings will remain obligatory like it has always been, so that everybody has the same economic environment.

cheers
DaKurt

Yes, I understand this with painful clarity. My idea was more in an effort to reduce the number of people who would have to deal with the worst of the start up problems. While you make it clear that this is a Beta, another layer of testing, even a small, focused, group layer, could save a lot of confusion for people as it would allow you to reduce the number of Problems that make it to the larger Beta group...

It's a Great program that is only getting better. So, in any case,, Thanks for working on it. It's 5:30 AM here and I might go sleep for a while. You guys are just getting out of bed aren't you

Ivan.....................................

DaKurt wrote:ok, so I already fixed this problem that you can get free fuel by aborting a flight and so on. I'll do some other changes and then release the new version. Refueling should be quite STABLE now

hmm, Adding means, how much fuel do you want to add to the xxx kg that are already in the plane...there is a short text "fuel already loaded" under the edit box. there you can see how much you already got. then you type how much you want additionally.
cheers
DaKurt

Hi DK,

Yes I understand this. 6.5 was as so. But when you released 6.6 if you didn't want to ADD any fuel and left the figures at zero thats what you get in the tanks - zero. Somewhere between 6.5 and 6.6 your code went on holiday and hasn't come back. The code that is in 6.6 needs you enter the total fuel REQUIRED in order to get the correct fuel in the tanks. If you enter the fuel that you want to ADD then you will only get that fuel without what was already in the tanks. If the Client asks how much fuel to ADD then the code must match. At the moment your ADD = REQUIRED. Try it you will see what I mean. If you load a flight and are happy with the fuel on board the wording of the client pages indicates that you should enter 0. If you enter 0 and hit the button to fly, you will have 0kgs in your aircraft.

Rgds

John