FSUIPC is up to date ?
i had to update mine after installing RFP since the previous version was overwritten
cant explain why RFP works for me and yours does not
at what point does your fuel empty ?
thier must be some sort of change taking place ,is it when you go tank to engine, when the center empties or what ?
CaptainSIM 130 and RFP747
Moderator: FSAirlines Staff
Yep, after RFP installation I reinstalled the latest FSUIPC.
The problem always seems to occur in cruise or around top of descent. I'm in tank-to-engine at those times, yes.
Do you fly the 742F or the pax version? I've been flying the 742F, loaded heavy but within limits, 198,000lb of fuel, OEJN-EGCC. I flew that route lots of times with client 3b but haven't managed it successfully with any later version. My RFP flies fine when I'm not using the FlyNET client.
Client 8b works fine with my PMDG739, Compare fuel mode. Completed lots of flights with no hassle. I just wish I could get that big old 742 off the ground again. I appreciate your ongoing help!
The problem always seems to occur in cruise or around top of descent. I'm in tank-to-engine at those times, yes.
Do you fly the 742F or the pax version? I've been flying the 742F, loaded heavy but within limits, 198,000lb of fuel, OEJN-EGCC. I flew that route lots of times with client 3b but haven't managed it successfully with any later version. My RFP flies fine when I'm not using the FlyNET client.
Client 8b works fine with my PMDG739, Compare fuel mode. Completed lots of flights with no hassle. I just wish I could get that big old 742 off the ground again. I appreciate your ongoing help!
Rob ALT2024/FRA101
RFP
having played with this for some five hours today i find it wont work using the compare method. i tried with engines running, cold start, refuel via the load editor, refuel via the fuel panel.
had the dreaded V1 cut as all 4 engines flamed out at about 160 kts on the runway, had a four engine flame out at 6oooft and yet another at 41000ft that last one might have been fuel icing now i think of it since i did not have the fuel heaters on
something not working well with 6.8b, previous versions worked fine for me before the compare method was introduced. i have done each test from full fuel tanks (341,000lbs)
had to give in and use the default B747-400 to complete the flight as a B747-200 as i had run out of time.
will try to experiment with "standard" mode next, would also hate to have to retire the RFP
i fly both Pax and frieght, however i have forgotten how to get the frieght load editor to function, it was a pain last time i got it to work i have just forgotton how
also i dont usually use time accelleration but had to this time due to time limits, it may also be a factor since time accell can screw up the fuel models
are you using standard fuelling or time accell ?
had the dreaded V1 cut as all 4 engines flamed out at about 160 kts on the runway, had a four engine flame out at 6oooft and yet another at 41000ft that last one might have been fuel icing now i think of it since i did not have the fuel heaters on
something not working well with 6.8b, previous versions worked fine for me before the compare method was introduced. i have done each test from full fuel tanks (341,000lbs)
had to give in and use the default B747-400 to complete the flight as a B747-200 as i had run out of time.
will try to experiment with "standard" mode next, would also hate to have to retire the RFP
i fly both Pax and frieght, however i have forgotten how to get the frieght load editor to function, it was a pain last time i got it to work i have just forgotton how
also i dont usually use time accelleration but had to this time due to time limits, it may also be a factor since time accell can screw up the fuel models
are you using standard fuelling or time accell ?
Yes I did use time acceleration; maybe that's got something to do with it.
I haven't tried using Standard fuelling yet but I will. I have a couple of weeks off work coming up so I can get down to some serious simming.
With the freight loader, the annoying bit is navigating to the aircraft.cfg, and you also have to be careful which pallets you use as some load the bird off-centre. I use pallet 2 which seems to work OK. I usually find that I have to click on 'New 747' and find my way to the .cfg every time, even to change the load of aircraft models I've already previously loaded. As you say, it is a bit of a pain.
I haven't tried using Standard fuelling yet but I will. I have a couple of weeks off work coming up so I can get down to some serious simming.
With the freight loader, the annoying bit is navigating to the aircraft.cfg, and you also have to be careful which pallets you use as some load the bird off-centre. I use pallet 2 which seems to work OK. I usually find that I have to click on 'New 747' and find my way to the .cfg every time, even to change the load of aircraft models I've already previously loaded. As you say, it is a bit of a pain.
Rob ALT2024/FRA101
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ssanchez
RFP
i have never run out of fuel its always all four engines shutdown for reasons unknown (yet)
also this is the first time i have ever used time accell so thats another unknown with it for me
however i no longer trust it enough to leave untended and right now i aint got the time to try a long flight at x1 just to test it
as for the frieght loader i go to the .cfg file but get a error 56 or something, pax loader works fine, will try again
also this is the first time i have ever used time accell so thats another unknown with it for me
however i no longer trust it enough to leave untended and right now i aint got the time to try a long flight at x1 just to test it
as for the frieght loader i go to the .cfg file but get a error 56 or something, pax loader works fine, will try again
Re: RFP
I get that too. I close the freight loader, reopen it, and then go to 'New 747' at the top, and navigate all the way to the aircraft.cfg of the plane I want to load. That's the only way I avoid the error 56.Tomb wrote:as for the frieght loader i go to the .cfg file but get a error 56 or something, pax loader works fine, will try again
Rob ALT2024/FRA101
RFP
you guys owe me,
having spent vast amounts of of busy jets virtual momey on fuel i finally think i know whats going on
using "compare" fuel method
using reserve fuel is safe to do as is up to x4 accel
BEFORE you start flynet, crank er up until you have 4 engines running turn the APU OFF...very important
then start FLYNET
if you dont then when you shut down the APU, the fuel shutoff valve (with flynet running) will not function corectly and will in fact shut down all your engines when they have sucked all the remaining fuel in the fuel lines
only discovered because i noticed that if you shut down the APU not using flynet then it goes fail and shuts down properly, in flynet the APU fuel shutoff valve operates shutting off ALL your fuel
engine 4 shutoff valve also operated not by me)
so start er up, shut down APU, WAIT until APU has cycled off and the APU door has shut, THEN run flynet
worked for me
having spent vast amounts of of busy jets virtual momey on fuel i finally think i know whats going on
using "compare" fuel method
using reserve fuel is safe to do as is up to x4 accel
BEFORE you start flynet, crank er up until you have 4 engines running turn the APU OFF...very important
then start FLYNET
if you dont then when you shut down the APU, the fuel shutoff valve (with flynet running) will not function corectly and will in fact shut down all your engines when they have sucked all the remaining fuel in the fuel lines
only discovered because i noticed that if you shut down the APU not using flynet then it goes fail and shuts down properly, in flynet the APU fuel shutoff valve operates shutting off ALL your fuel
engine 4 shutoff valve also operated not by me)
so start er up, shut down APU, WAIT until APU has cycled off and the APU door has shut, THEN run flynet
worked for me
Re: RFP
Name your price!Tomb wrote:you guys owe me
I'm going to try this as soon as I get time. It'll be so, so good to get that heavy ol' classic off the ground again. Thanks for all your hard work.
Rob ALT2024/FRA101
Well, I tried. First run, all four fans died at about 800 feet AGL. Second time I made 200% sure I waited until APU was fully shut down, and APU door light extinguished, before starting FlyNET, with all four engines running. All was well until I opened the reserve valves in the descent. Immediately all fuel vanished from the right inboard and all four engines died.She's back in the hangar.
Rob ALT2024/FRA101
using "compare" the reserve fuel worked for me
how ever since the reserve fuel is such a small amount i suggest you fly her and consider the reserve fuel an usable amount.
before 6.8b i could do a complete start and fly using flynet but not use reserve fuel, for flynet 6.8b i must be engines running and can use reserve fuel
the loss of 6k from 341k fuel should not stop you from flying.
however if it does, sell your B742's Busy jet will take em
how ever since the reserve fuel is such a small amount i suggest you fly her and consider the reserve fuel an usable amount.
before 6.8b i could do a complete start and fly using flynet but not use reserve fuel, for flynet 6.8b i must be engines running and can use reserve fuel
the loss of 6k from 341k fuel should not stop you from flying.
however if it does, sell your B742's Busy jet will take em
Yes, me too. No probs with 3b, but, as you correctly say,...Tomb wrote:before 6.8b i could do a complete start and fly using flynet but not use reserve fuel, for flynet 6.8b i must be engines running and can use reserve fuel
...I ought to just forget the reserve tanks, as I now remember I used to when using 3b. I'll try another flight soon.the loss of 6k from 341k fuel should not stop you from flying.
Rob ALT2024/FRA101
YES! Completed successful flight OEJN to HECA, no crashes, no fuel starvation.
Now I just need to re-learn how to keep her on the runway after t/d. Made a perfect t/d on the centreline then slid right and the back end started to come around. I'd forgotten about that endearing feature of RFP. I used to cure it by applying rudder into the skid which flicked the tail back into line and straightened her up. Practice, practice, practice...
Now I just need to re-learn how to keep her on the runway after t/d. Made a perfect t/d on the centreline then slid right and the back end started to come around. I'd forgotten about that endearing feature of RFP. I used to cure it by applying rudder into the skid which flicked the tail back into line and straightened her up. Practice, practice, practice...
Rob ALT2024/FRA101
Not good news. Did everything as per procedure, started all 4 and shut down APU, waited for APU door light to extinguish then started the FlyNET client. Never touched the reserve valves. On final approach all four engines died. I was in tank-to-engine with approx 9000lb in each tank. I noticed that all the fuel had vanished from the reserve tanks when the engines died.
So, I can't help concluding that RFP is still unflyable with client 8b.
So, I can't help concluding that RFP is still unflyable with client 8b.
Rob ALT2024/FRA101
so what was the difference between the succesful flight and the unsuucesful one ? (did you use compare for both ?)
incidently the plot thickens my CS B707-320 has always been flawless but while the cargo flight worked fine the pax version (no APU must attach ground cart) drained all its fuel on taxi out, had to have it up and running BEFORE starting flynet, never had to do that before from a cold start
i am begining to suspect 6.8b has an issue with using external power at least in the "compare method"
incidently the plot thickens my CS B707-320 has always been flawless but while the cargo flight worked fine the pax version (no APU must attach ground cart) drained all its fuel on taxi out, had to have it up and running BEFORE starting flynet, never had to do that before from a cold start
i am begining to suspect 6.8b has an issue with using external power at least in the "compare method"